Pat -- I think that until you substansiate your allegations you should keep quiet, or let the folks making said s/w speak for themselves. ISS will be purchased by(as well pointed out in the last couple hours) folks w/o the inclination/abilit/ or time to chase their internal holes. It will also undoubetly get into what some view as the "wrong hands". How one defines "wrong hands" I won't even degernate the conversation to, let's just leave it as that. scb -- Steven C. Blair dell computer corp [ ] Unless this box is signed with an X I don't speak for my keepers....